Monday, June 12, 2017

Katy Perry's Dinner Party Goes LEFT When Amanda Seales EDUCATES Caitlyn Jenner on The Black Experience In America

Katy Perry has been getting on my nerves lately... but that's not the story...lol.

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She recently hosted a dinner party and the conversation turned left when Amanda Seales took a moment to educate Trump supporter, Caitlyn Jenner on the "black experience" in America. Job well done Amanda. Watch inside.



Ha! I grabbed my pearls when she said, "Sis". Lol.. But on a serious note, conversations like this are very necessary. No matter what race you are, be careful when disregarding another race's struggles in this country. We all have our own experience and whether it's good or bad, we should not discredit anyone else's.

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  1. Your talk is falling on deaf ears. Whites are bred to lie, steal, and destroy anything and everything that scares them. They've stolen histories, cultivated false truths to misguided people of color. Look! at how the white man turned away from you when you started talking. Whites don't like other people of color who know who they really are. Wake up my Queen and use your intellect where it would be valued and appreciated. Come out from amongst them and live.

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    1. A little louder for the people in the back.

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    2. How can you stick all white people into this category? There are genuine people in this world who understand these things are real and use their voices to fight injustice. Your words are too angry and represent such a narrow minded view of the world and human capacity to grow and learn from mistakes. We cannot be so devisive and expect to overcome the many obstacles we encounter on our road to victory. Only together can we tear down these walls in our minds constructed through decades of social, polictical and economic racism.

      I think Amanda makes a genuine and valid point. White people cannot understand the experience of minorities in this country. But if we do not educate them at every opportunity, how will they learn? ***And I know "it shouldn't be my obligation to educate someone on how to treat a human being." I totally understand, but why not? Because you don't have time? Because you don't feel like it." That is a poor excuse and the time for excuses is over.

      We have to come together and fight for eachother because our voices are strong and our minds are mightier as one.

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    3. Her words didn't fall on deaf ears. Thousands are hearing and applauding what she's saying. She can sit at as many tables and walk through as many doors as she likes, and has been. We are not responsible however, for educating the ignorant. We've been educating and caring for whites since forever. We are done. And they still say, they don't know. We can express our views, sure, but the education piece is their responsibility. Want to know? Do the Work! There are more than enough channels/venues/opportunity/books to do that.

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    4. Until you have met EVERY white person in the world you cant speak on all of them like they are the same... thats like saying yall are all criminals .. very untrue.. stop pulling the race card and trying to blame someone all the time.

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    5. Well..I mean..i know you all are upset but I don't see the lie here.

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    6. Say it again for the ppl just coming in

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    7. Some unvarnished truth!!!!

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    8. This one got wypipo chewing bricks! "Umm like Not all wypipo..."

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    9. The ones continuously saying ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE SAME. We already know that. Some want colored people wiped off the earth. Some want the whole world to just mix to breed the color out of them. Then some just want to be viewed as better than colored people. You got those white folks who only see you as a person not a black person, and the kind of white folks that want your black ass caged in your own community so they continue to dump poison in our air and water supplies. So truth be told ALL WHITE PEOPLE will lie to you, take from you, poison and out right kill you, and enslave your youth. It's genocide in people of color. By the hands of the white supremacist who's ancestors put in motion this system of racism and genocide that all of them benefit from. They will NEVER concern themselves with anything other than there own gain.

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    10. If you have to say "but not all white people" you are part of the problem. Stop speaking over people as if yours os the only voice that matters. It may hurt your feelings to be lumped in with racist white people, then stop complaining and go educate other white people so it's no longer true, don't just say "well not all white people. Not me."

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    11. Ok so I need to say this...no matter what you say about how "ALL WHITE PEOPLE" are not the same they do share the same privlage. Which is the point she is touching on in this video. ALL WHITE PEOPLE HAVE, WHITE PRIVLAGE. No matter if your on the side of injustice and are fighting with "us" there are things in this world your skin color has set you up to not experience. And until the people who are of the WHITE PRIVLAGE, and are also standing to help fight injustice, understand that it's not an attack on them and more an attack on how they have been given WHITE PRIVLAGE which we as colored people will never have experienced, we will get no where in America regarding this topic.

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    12. You can't educate a bigot. No matter how many facts you enlighten them with, they are a bigot, and will continue to act like bigots. What we need to do, is stop giving bigots power.

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    13. As a white person, I think it's really important that we stop getting offended when we hear the words "white people". Listen to the central argument - acknowledge where you personally are doing well, if you need to (to yourself! it really does not add anything to the conversation to publicly pat yourself on the back) - but more importantly see how you personally can do better. By focusing on "not all white people!" we are diminishing what POC are saying. Don't take it so personally, sit back, let them speak for once, and actually listen.

      Obviously not every white person is awful, but we have to own up to the fact that we have all been awful at one time. We have more learning to do, to undo the ideas that we have been fed through older generations, the media, our peers at school, and we can't expect to be hand fed the help. It is very clear that in this country we have not ever helped POC get to where they are. Some may want to educate, and that is their prerogative, but many do not want to - it is not your right (especially as a white person) to decide which one they must do.

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    14. Thank you. When a white person says not all white people it's like the person who watched you get jumped say "well I didn't kick you." True, that you may not have been the main problem but you are definitely apart of it seeing how you offered no help.

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    15. I did not own slaves, my grandparents did not own slaves, hell even my great great great grandparents didn't own slaves. Instead they fought for your freedom. Since you think there is no issue saying that all white people are racist and have white privilege, than you should have no issue when people say you are all lazy, and criminals. That's the problem in this country, someone can call other people names and point fingers but when someone starts calling them names its offensive.

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    16. Anonymous at 7:57 excellently said ��

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    17. No sweetie. Again with your white sadness. We have taken the brunt of world pain for centuries. All white people sat idle as black and vrown bodies were being murdered shamelessly all in the name of us being "savages". All White people sat idle when we worked tirelessly in fields, tending to white slaver's cash crops without food, water, AND while being whipped like wild cattle. All white people were silent when we were raped, impregnated by our white slavers, and then degraded by calling us 3/4 human. All white people sat quietly while black wet nurses breastfed their children while our were fed to allegators. All white people sat carelessly when our prosperous communities were burned, our strong men were hanged from trees, and our young black women terrorized by a Christian nationalist group aka the KKK (no pun intended). All white people fear black strength, brilliance, sportsmanship, culture, and communities, so they sit and sip tea while their many efforts to continuously destroy black and brown communities thrive. Do not come here with white feminism and expect a gold medal. We don't want to hear your speech. So shut up; read some books about the history your white teachers failed to teach you because your history of lies was more important; drink some water, convince yourself that you're the best white person ever, and try not to lock your car doors when a group of black teens pass by your car before you run here to type "BUT ALL WHITE PEOPLE AREN'T..." STOP. WE DON'T BELIEVE YOU, YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE.

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    18. @7:57 said it perfectly and 10:19 ... yes I am white but all truth right there

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    19. Why does everyone group all whites with racist white Americans? Do blacks in America think that all whites in the rest of the world had slaves? Shoot innocent black kids? Wtf. I'm from Eastern Europe and we have no evil history dealing with blacks. Stop assuming the rest of the world is exactly like America.

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    20. Hi. I'm white. I'm still fighting for police to killing you all. I looked up the process to find out how to get civilians to review police disciplinary actions and I've been trying to get people to sweat their mayors and politicians to make civilians part of the local process for their police disciplinary review. I explain to the ignorant Trump supporters I know. It's different when it comes from a white person to these people. Ignorant white people only listen to other white people. I support black owned businesses and education funds. I'm writing this anonymously because I don't do it for recognition or any sort of kudos. I do it because I don't want one damn person to suffer like black people do in this country. I'm not trying to speak over anyone or say I'm better than you. I know I'm not, but my politicians will pay attention to me because my race is not a political tool. Some of us whites are out here for you. We support you and don't want you suffering. I'm sorry my race has made you feel this way. But some of us are here for you. Like I said, ignorant, racist white people only listen to other white people, so some of us white people need to be your allies to make any change happen. Please don't alienate us. I want a better future for this country and this planet, and that's literally all I gain from any of this.

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    21. Speaking as a white anon to other white anons, chill guys, it's cool. Generalizations are a useful tool in language. It's not actually YOU being disparaged in generalizations about white people. Just let people express themselves candidly without making it about your feelings. Focus on primary feelings first, not feelings about feelings. Acknowledge other people's feelings, make an effort to understand other people's feelings, and then you can delve into your feelings about their feelings. And part of this involves things like what Amanda Seale was talking about when she was trying to explain how these disagreements are solidly grounded in their different experiences. White commenters trying to defend themselves against generalizations of white people are basically doing the same thing that Caitlyn is doing in the above video. Don't get defensive right away. Figure out where their feelings come from and why they've come to different conclusions than you have.

      This comment thread is entirely too meta.

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  2. Everything she said was accurate and respectful.

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  3. And everything you said was bullshit. She's more educated on this matter than youself.

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    1. Must be a whypipo with this comment.

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  4. i agree 1000% and i also agree with the above comments... a lot of white people are blind to real fact or they want to act like they are. they bask in their ignorance and wear it as a shield.

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  5. While what she says is true, that doesn't mean we meet individuals who want to support American's of different backgrounds with anger because they don't know how it was for you. How the hell do you expect a White person to know what it means to be Black or Trans in America, or anything other than what they are? If you don't talk, without yelling, name-calling or arguing how do you get that dialogue going? How do you get people listening if the speaker wants to attack someone who has not had your experiences? I want and do support every American, but attacking is not the answer. No one ever changed their opinion after being attacked, especially by comments on a webpage.

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    1. Easy. Use your brain and you will understand. Its not hard to empathize and GET IT!

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    2. See your WHITE PRIVLAGE is showing. 1st because you only see this as an attack, because of you being in a postion in America where you don't have to care about how anyone else is being treated because your at the top. 2nd no one is saying they expect you to know what a black, trans or any body (other then white) has experienced but you do need to educate yourself and not turn a blind eye to the history and present events that spell out anybody how anybody (other then whites) have had very different very difficult experiences. 3rd If your going to be on the defensive it's going to feel like an attack no matter if the person is cursing you out or politely educating you.

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    3. You have great points about white PRIVILEGE. But make sure to check spelling, especially when using caps.

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  6. We expect you to educate yourselves. There are libraries full of books on the subject if paying blacks for their knowledge is your issue. But maybe you want your aunt jemima to teach you? I don't have to be "respectable" you have to be human.

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  7. I don't understand her rhetoric about not having the same experience at all when she is in a position of privilege and wealth like everyone there. The company she keeps...how did she get there? Everyone at that table had to sell themselves for attention and money. Yes because they are talented. She is with them and can say anything she wants. I respect her but it looks to me that she is experiencing a wealthy lifestyle. They ARE experiencing something similar. WE ALL have different points of view.

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    1. It is called intersectionality. You can be a person of color with money and status and have more access to privilege than a person of noncolor who is poor and lower socio-economics.
      However, their skin differences, no matter their wealth status the same and is treated above all else. An example of this is the renowned and well off Black Harvard professor Dr. Gates was arrested for "loitering". 60+ yo man with a cane, was locked out of his home and was standing on his property. They roughed him up and pushed him from what I understand.
      A white poor man mass murdered Black parishioners at their church. He was arrested peacefully by police, taken to get some food and treated as a hero.

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    2. Then you missed the point, Carolyn. No need to try to explain how and why you missed the point. Rather, an opportunity for you to think deeper than before about a topic. She didn't make it up. Why not try to figure it out instead of spread your misunderstanding?

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    3. The fact that you believe her economic success has anything to do with what she is talking about proves her point. You were raised to believe that privilege comes with economical status. Where as PoC are raised to know that no matter how high you're status is you will always still be "nigger"

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  8. Wished she hadn't used the "welfare" example. Perpetuates the misconception of the "black ghetto queen".
    Better examples- the government sterilized Blacks in NC. Henrietta Lacks stolen DNA HeLo cells. Black Wall Street, Sweet Auburn Atlanta, Rosewood burned and bombed by the govt. Tuskegee experiment to give generations of Blacks syphilis by the govt. Defunding education in Black districts. Gerrymandering. Disparity in sentencing for same and lesser crimes committed by whites. Assassinations of our leaders by the govt. Selling of heroine and guns mixing it with a deadly concoction of institutionalised white supremacy, redistribution of taxes on the poor from the wealthy, redistricting, and discrimination to create crime filled ghettos - much like the blue print used by american govt to ensure Haiti will never rise again.....

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    1. I totally agree. Her example also didn't make any sense. There are no "Black" welfare rules, as opposed to "white" welfare rules. The same rules apply to everyone. And most people on welfare are white. White single mothers face the same conundrums concerning marriage versus additional welfare support. The fact that she made it seem like welfare authorities are breaking up Black families is ridiculous and just untrue.

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  9. "How the hell do you expect a White person to know what it means to be Black or Trans in America"

    Lol. White person can be trans in america. And also, man can be trans. You feminists always treat these groups like they were all black women. Don't understand how any white trans dude can support you because you just hate us.

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    1. Hello white trans dude here. 100% supportive of POC and their fight for equality. I talk to me other white trans guy friends (i have quite a few) they all seem to agree
      I dont have the opinion of all the white trans dudes but this is staring to look like a you problem and not something the trans community actually cares about but if you feel the need to care about our feelings in the future be sure to mention better healthcare procedures for transitions and the pesky bathroom thing.
      Thank you
      -trans white dude

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  10. My issue is: when someone wants to research the latest technology, or the next best consumer product, people will go through extensive research....when it involves something they value, everyone is a researcher and a critic.

    But when it comes to understanding the nuances of race relations in America, suddenly, we have to preach? We have to do all the work of providing the information? It literally makes the point that as long as it does not affect you, or you don't value the knowledge in it, you will not show the same amount of drive/determination for information. Miss me with that BS.

    It's not that people don't know, or don't have resources at their disposal. It's just that they don't care.

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    1. And there you have it.

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    2. Exactly! Like, why is it taking so long for people to understand. Makes me remember MOST people got Cs and Ds in school in subjectslike history, social studies, etc. It was never easy for them to comprehend lol.

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    3. Exactly. Why is it always up to black women to do emotional labor for white people?!

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    4. I can't say you're wrong. If people don't care about a thing, they won't spend any time on it, plain and simple.

      To be perfectly blunt, I mostly care because of my friends. It made and still makes me angry to know they aren't treated fairly, are in fact in danger just because of the color of their skin. That sense of unfairness was the seed of my interest in race relations as a whole. Since then I've tried to educate myself on the subject - but it started because my friends were important to me.

      It's not something you learn about and then know, either, unlike most subjects; and it's not something a white person can understand through personal experience, either, except vicariously. Because of this, I am constantly watching, analyzing, listening, trying to understand better, even though I know I will never fully be able to.

      And yet my best resources in this endeavor have still been my black friends and the people of color who speak out to educate us, because they are loud and clear and utterly straightforward. I don't think you should have to go out and educate the whole white population. For one thing, plenty of people are morons who not only don't understand, but are more interested in making excuses than trying. For another, why exactly should you have to do that? Plenty of other people of color have made themselves heard. You're perfectly right about whites having the ability to educate themselves.

      That said, I will encourage you to do one thing: if you have a white friend, and you think they're probably the sort who WANT to learn, and have been trying... tell them if they screw up, and give them enough to figure out how. If they're really interested in learning, it won't matter if you totally ream them out over it - they'll make the effort, get over any hurt feelings, and apologize, at the very LEAST.

      I dunno. Obviously, it's up to you whether to make that effort, but I felt like I should weigh in that it does help to hear the perspectives of the people you love. Because loving someone makes you care about their experiences a hell of a lot more.

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  11. Attacking is never good unless provoked of course. However attacking and yelling have absolutely nothing to do with this clip as clearly Amanda Seales brilliantly and peacefully vocalized herself. No one was attacked or displayed anger here. I hope you don't consider speaking up and educating someone on a serious issue, as attacking.

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  13. I love my white privilege.

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  14. Okay check this out every white person in the world. You all benefit from racism! I repeat every white person in the world benefits from oppression and racism. This is how we can Clump all of you into one category which is every white person in the world benefits from racism! So while you so-called Liberals are using your voices to fight racism LOL you also go back to your comfortable homogenized neighborhoods and country clubs, grocery stores, nail salons, hair shops, schools, bookstores, tanning salons, restaurants Etc Listen to your words will you? How can you claim yourself not to be a racist but then also claimed that you are part of the majority and you support the minorities? LOL who the h3ck are you to say you're the majority? You're not first and foremost. There are a lot more brown people on this Earth then there are white folks so let's be clear about that. You want to do more than fight racism with your voices white people? Let's start with removing those slave owners from your money. How about we stop celebrating those guys? In real life racism can only be stopped or broken down by those that benefit from it. If racism could be stopped by those that are oppressed by it it would be stopped.

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    1. Well said. It wasn't until I was an adult, unfortunately, that I learned what white privilege is and how I - as a white person - benefit from it. I'll admit that I grew up in a suburban predominately white area and went to school with 99% white people. Yes, all white people do benefit from privilege whether we want to believe we do or not. I can walk into a grocery store as a young white woman and know that I'm not going to get looks of "Is she going to cause trouble?" or "Can she really afford to shop here?" It's sad that these thoughts go through white people's minds, but it DOES happen.

      While I agree that it's not the responsibility of other races to educate white people, I do think - and this is just my opinion - that it's helpful to hear from other races what they feel will best help race relations. I agree that we all need to work together on this, which is why I appreciate your line of "Let's start with removing those slave owners from your money." I agree, and it's nice to hear someone actually offer up a suggestion instead of a general "People need to do more."

      As an elementary teacher, I'm wondering what I can do to help my predominately white class to better understand our collective history and how they can help with race relations moving forward. I want them to be exposed to other cultures - including trials and triumphs. If anyone here has ideas that they feel would be beneficial, that would be great. I have read Coretta Scott King award-winning stories to them, such as "Moses: When Harriet Tubman Led Her People to Freedom" and we've had discussions, and I suppose I've always found this to be a step in the right direction, but I want to do more. I'd like black guest speakers and readers to work with my students, for example. I'd like to take them on field trips that will better educate them. I'm only one person, but I want to do more and - again - I know that it's not the responsibility of other races to educate, but it IS helpful. There are those white people who WILL listen and want to try to do better for all of us.

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  15. I really agree with her. Yeah ahe is right you have hope for this country because the white privilage is there. For is miniorities there is no hope. I see what's going on now in our country and I feel fucked and hopeless. Its never a wow look at the change slavery just because we not in a cotton field dont mean it doesn't exist, housing problems where we move in and they move out . the problem is serious. And no she has no time to teach others what they can learn on their own or their parents shop to raise them to be a humble non racism person with moralsand values. And Jenner dpesnt understand because even though she is a transgender she came in it late with alot of money and fame.

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  16. White Only... Where can I eat? Where can I sit? Where can I live? Where can my children go to church, doctor,play,or go to school.


    So many people say they understand, but do you care about the grave injustice to publicly admit the wrongs? If not then what does your understanding do. Yes, it was possibly your forefathers and you have no doings with the past. But Please stop understanding without stating what you understand and with a heartfelt apology for what your white generations did and you are ready and willing to advocate sincere and real world change.

    Example: I understand your plight from reading and hearing commentary. I sense your pain from the fear of being tortured in the streets and saw tears and heard screams from TV, radio, documentary, and interviews.

    From my understanding I am truly sorry that my generation did (what you know was wrong that impacted your heart). Please forgive them and me for any known or unknown racist and prejudice actions.

    I am sorry we also hurt you also in ways that I will never understand.

    Sincerely,

    When I think about the Jews I cry

    When I think about the Armenian I cry

    When I think about the Asian I cry

    When I think about the Native Americans I cry

    When I think about the Hispanic I cry

    When I think about the Cubans I cry

    When I think about the LBGT I cry

    When I think about the Ethiopian and all the people I didn't mention because their history didn't find a way into our history textbooks but I cry.

    When I think about the injustice to All people I cry

    I cried while learning to understand, then found helpful and positive ways to show loving kindness to all people with a heart of continued forgiveness.


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  17. Yall make me sick hollering "not all white people." Do you know how long we as black people have been trying to get yall white folks to stop treatingbhs all like animals????

    Instead of hollering "not all white people" how about listen to the complaint. Focus more on how other people feel instead of focusing on making yourself the special white person. SHOW US that not all white people are self centered and can do more than focus on being clumped with a group of racists.

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    1. Some of us white folks want to show you how. Please help us. I know it shouldn't have to be your responsibility to do so, but it helps. I completely agree with you. Listening is the key to starting the change. It's easy for anyone to immediately start to shut down or get defensive when they hear "all white people" or "all black people", but we have to look past that and see what's being conveyed. To say that blacks have been mistreated - both in the past and now - is a massive understatement. And while there are plenty of white people who will say, "Hey, come on. Don't group me in. I'm not racist because I'd never own slaves," or "I believe in equality and justice for every people, regardless of skin color," SAYING things isn't enough. We need to DO what we can to work with black people to bring about equality. We need to actively condemn hate crimes to the highest degree and stand up for one another. We need to teach our children about the atrocities done to blacks in the past and how atrocities are STILL being committed every day. We need to stop acting like everything is okay just because slavery is outlawed and the Civil Rights Act was passed. And when black people speak out, we need to LISTEN and not get sensitive just because they are making their feelings known and stating facts for what they are. There's much more than those few examples. But please...continue to educate whites. It shouldn't have to be your responsibility, but please. It does help. My black friends helped reach me. You helped reach me. You will reach others. Listening and educating are ultimately what will help bring change.

      I'm with you. I really am, wholly and sincerely. I haven't done enough in the past, but I am trying to educate myself to be better. I'll never understand what you go through due to my white privilege, but I want to help.

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  18. I watched a clip of the view yesterday and Whoopi said it best when she said people of color can't talk to whites about their experiences because their conversation is not understood and they view as playing the victim or having a Pitty party. When you come across an educated individual that has advanced in life and they still can talk about the struggle to be heard or respected don't try to invalidate their experience. There are only a handful of truly exceptional people that have a grasp on what racial equality is. Tim Wise is a person that knows what the people color face in this country. Look him up.

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  19. Well thanks for assuming I'm a bigot because of the color of my skin. Yeah, white people have done and continue to do unspeakably horrendous things. But so has every culture since the beginning of time. You think englishmen invented slavery and war and bigotry? No. Can we talk about the african children who are trained by african warlords to fight in wars they know nothing about? Oh, or maybe the very real danger of muslim extremists who kill anyone that doesn't agree with them. I'm very aware of my privilege, thank you very much. But if you're going to sit and complain that whites are terrible people without getting to know and educate them then how will they learn? You're feeding into their hatred by showing more in return. That makes you a racist and, therefore, part of the problem.

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